Los problemas de la gestión de información según Larry Ellison y Enrique Dans
La semana pasada, Enrique Dans, profesor de Sistemas de la Información del Instituto de Empresa, presentó en su blog un vídeo de Larry Ellison, CEO de Oracle, hablando sobre los problemas de la gestión de la información en la empresa.
Jeroclo, el espartano, me advirtió sobre la existencia del vídeo. Como sabía que iba a estar de acuerdo en muchas cosas y en desacuerdo en otras y que no suelo callarme lo que pienso, me pidió que escribiera un artículo al respecto de los que a él le gustan, a lo Karate Kid, por lo de “dar cera y pulir cera”.
Ahora que Larry es oficialmente mi jefe, después de haberme contratado por una botella de vodka, creo que es más que oportuno que matice las palabras del líder. Así que, allá vamos. Abróchense los cinturones.
El vídeo de Larry. Tiene subtítulos y dura sólo cinco minutos. No os asustéis, ¡cobardes!
A Enrique le tiene que gustar mucho el vídeo, no obstante lo ha exportado desde formato Real Video, lo ha recortado, subtitulado, subido a YouTube y reconoce que lo ha utilizado como material lectivo en todos sus cursos.
Hombre… el vídeo es bueno. A Enrique -al que sigo y del que aprendo- se le agradece el esfuerzo y Larry está gracioso diciendo verdades como puños pero, ya que se va a utilizar como material lectivo, me gustaría puntualizar algunas cosas al respecto desde una perspectiva diferente, no la del “manachment” que aporta Enrique -me he leído su curriculum y ha sido profesor, consultor, miembro de comités que ni siquiera sabía que existian y accionista o consejero de startups del más diverso pelaje pero, no he podido encontrar un sólo trabajo como picateclas raso o brown eater junior-, y más cercano a las trincheras, al programador que tiene que implementar las ideas que Larry y otros guruseles de las TI programan en Powepoint o en Keynote, que queda aún más cool.
Dice Ellison que los grandes problemas de la gestión de la información en las empresas se pueden resumir en tres puntos:
- La dispersión de la información. Enrique lo traduce como “fragmentación de los datos” pero, cualquier informático, sobre todo cualquiera que trabajara con bases de datos de Oracle, empezaría a pensar en bloques de datos de n KB y fragmentación de datos en disco. Nada más alejado de lo que quiere decir Larry, que se refiere a que los datos de una empresa, suelen estar dispersos en mil y una bases de datos corporativas, departamentales, dedicadas a una aplicación especifica y más.
- La integración del software. Larry se queja de que los desarrolladores nos dedicamos a, sorprenderos, ¡desarrollar software! y, evidentemente, ese software no está diseñado para trabajar conjuntamente, lo que produce grandes quebraderos de cabeza para integrar y hacer funcionar todos los productos y tecnologías que utilizamos en nuestra empresa.
- Adaptabilidad del software. Larry habla de “automatización” y Enrique lo traduce as is, pero una vez más, no creo que la traducción sea la más apropiada. A lo que se refiere Ellison es a las dificultades de la industria para producir software corporativo out-of-the-box, es decir, de los de “mete el CD en el ordenador, instálalo y ponte a utilizarlo al momento”. Parece que los desarrolladores no sabemos o no queremos hacer software sencillo y autoexplicativo para su uso en distintas empresas.
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Programadores, en las trincheras, dispuestos a acabar con los problemas de la gestión de la información en la empresa con pico y pala
Bueno, pues aunque Larry no ha descubierto la polvora, la verdad es que tiene más razón que un santo. Lo que pasa es que en el vídeo se le ha “olvidado” alguna cosilla que vamos a intentar recordar aquí:
- La dispersión de la información. Es verdad, tenemos más bases de datos que sentido común. Es fácil encontrar ofertas de hosting en donde te ofrecen “5 bases de datos y en la versión premium, 10″. Pero, aunque tengamos una única base de datos, de nada sirve si nuestras sucesivas aplicaciones se instalán en schemas distintos o utilizan sus propias tablas. Otra cosa que Larry y Enrique pasan por alto es que esta batalla no se juega en la base de datos, sino en un territorio mucho más hinospito: la ofimática. Porque la mayor dispersión de datos no la provocan los desarrolladores, sino las hordas de managers en ciernes que salen de escuelas de negocios como en la que da clase Enrique, armados hasta los dientes con Powerpoints y Excel donde hacen su “yo me lo guiso, yo me lo como”, plasman su know-how y “aportan valor” a la empresa. Mi primera labor como CEO de una empresa siempre sería la misma: prohibir el Excel y derivados. El Excel puede ser una de las herramientas más dañinas para la actividad de una empresa y debería utilizarse únicamente como última solución y como herramienta de apoyo, nunca de trabajo ¿Sabéis qué es el Excel Hell? Pues si habéis trabajado como informáticos en ambientes corporativos, seguro que lo habéis sufrido…
- La integración del software. Pues sí. Es difícil conseguir que un programa de facturación hecho por un equipo hindú se integre correctamente con un programa de nóminas hecho en Albacete. Para solucionarlo, tenemos dos posibilidades. La primera, la que sugiere Larry: “me lo compras todo a mí y, a cambio de mucho dinero, te prometo que te ahorraré aún más dinero. Te ahorrarás mucha pasta en técnicos, que emplearás en pagar a mis consultores”. Porque, no nos engañemos, optar por una solución de Oracle no implica que todo funcione al instante y mágicamente. Cualquier técnico que haya intentado instalar una suite de aplicaciones de Oracle sabrá que es complicado, muy complicado. En cualquier caso, es una opción, que es muy válida para grandes empresas donde es más importante la respetabilidad y seguridad financiera que da una megacorporación como Oracle, antes que el ahorro de costes y la optimización técnica que prometen esos hippies que cobran millonadas y que pueden dejarte tirado de un día para otro para irse a cultivar alcachofas a un kibutz israelí ¿Cómo los llama Larry? ¡Ah, sí! technicians. Hay otra opción, impulsada no por Larry precisamente, sino por alguno de esos technicians locuelos. Se llaman Web Services o REST y consiguen que aplicaciones que tienen que ver tan poco entre sí como Aznar y el Che Guevara se comuniquen sin problemas. Probablemente a Enrique y a sus alumnos no les suenen estos términos, porque remangarse y mancharse las manos entendiendo BIEN qué es eso del protocolo HTTP no es nada cool para el “manachment” pero, si supieran que la API que hace que su adorado twitter sea lo que es hoy en día es una API REST como una casa de grande y que por eso tiene ese enoooorme ecosistema de aplicaciones alrededor, seguro que le prestaban más atención al respecto.
- Adaptabilidad del Software. Vaya, se queja Larry de que configurar un programa complicado es… complicado. Y tiene razón pero, ¿qué solución da al respecto?. ¿Alguien ha jugado a un videojuego de última generación? ¿Un Metal Gear, por ejemplo? Cualquier videojuego medianamente complejo te puede incluir un tutorial de cuatro horas que todos los jugones nos tragamos sin rechistar. Y eso sólo para aprender los rudimentos básicos del juego. ¿Alguien se puede imaginar al usuario medio tragándose un tutorial de cuatro horas antes de poder hacer algo con un programa en la empresa? Antes de que haya trascurrido media hora, te tiran el monitor a la cabeza. También dice que los ERPs, los CRMs y no se cuantos programas más están “sin acabar”. Mal ejemplo Larry, MUY MAL EJEMPLO. ¿Por qué? Porque el dominio funcional de un ERP, por ejemplo, es taaaan complejo que es literalmente IMPOSIBLE crear una aplicación capaz de modelar todas las realidades de una empresa. Créanme, sé de lo que hablo. No soy usuario avanzado, ni comercial, ni consultor de uno o varios módulos de un ERP. Yo he diseñado y programado un ERP desde cero, de la nada y es realmente difícil crear algo que se adapte a inputs y outputs tan variables como los que puede dar una única empresa. Imaginaos algo capaz de adaptarse por igual a una empresa como Recauchutados López o Indra. Podéis pensar que, aquí, el único paquete soy yo, pero a esa pequeña empresa llamada SAP, le pasa algo similar. Hay procesos SAP con más de 800 parámetros y, aún así, un CD con una instalación de SAP tal cual, vale lo mismo que un Open Bravo: cero patatero. Siempre hay algo que programar, siempre hay algo que adaptar, siempre hay un Director Financiero que quiere el informe en verde, no en naranja. ¿Oracle soluciona mejor que nadie todo esto? No tengo ni la menor idea. La última vez que intenté comprender por completo el portfolio de Oracle (¿Peoplesoft? ¿JD Edwards? ¿Siebel?), me empezó a doler la cabeza como cuando me pregunté “si antes del Big Bang no había nada, tenía que haber algo, porque el mismo concepto de la nada implica que haya un algo que se contraponga”. No he encontrado respuesta en ninguno de los dos casos.
Bueno, al fin y al cabo esto sólo es un ladrillo de un Jedi seducido por el lado oscuro, de un técnico que navega entre el manachment y el entrepeneurship.
Probablemente, todas estas divagaciones sólo lleguen a mis fieles espartanos. A Jeroclo, a Vilches, a Beas, a Arranz y a tantos otros. Pero, por una vez, sólo por una vez, me gustaría que todo este texto llegara a alguien más, a Enrique Dans, y que pudiera completar la lección que incluye el gran vídeo de Larry con esta humilde aportación. Quizás así, la nueva generación de “manachment” que se hiciera cargo de las empresas de tecnología de este país pudieran tener una perspectiva más amplia, más allá de la moqueta y más cercana a las tripas del negocio, donde trabajan los técnicos.
Así que, si quieres ayudarme a intentarlo, copia, pega, pinta y colorea, menea, retwitea, envía, comenta y menciona este modesto artículo. Si conseguimos que llegue hasta Enrique, prometo pagarle una ronda de cervezas a mis fieles espartanos. Y yo siempre cumplo mis promesas.
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[Se levanta y emocionado aplaude] :) Si señor, este artículo es de los que marcan época y épica :D Esta claro que le enfoque "maneyement" acaba ocultando y obviando el esfuerzo de los monos codificadores sentados en sus sillas cuál remero azotado por el látigo. Además que, como hemos dicho otras veces, esta nuestra empresa valora, parece ser, la subida de puestos desde que llevas sudadera hasta que lleves distintas corbatas cada día.
Qué pena… yo lo que quiero es ser técnico, pero de verdad, de esos experimentados… doctor, ¿es grave? ¿vivo en el país de las maravillas?
Un abrazo (y espero esa ronda)
No sé, David, la verdad es que:
1) Ya me gustaría saber qué es lo que trata de explicar el profesor Dans con este video. El señor Ellison, con más caradura que otra cosa, le suelta a sus clientes (a los convencidos, que por eso están ahí escuchándole) que se ha forrado por su incompetencia y por la de integradores como IBM Global Services y similares. ¿Viene ahora a salvarnos o qué? ¿Va a darles cursillos de Oracle LiquidData a todos sus partners y así podremos ser liberados de las ataduras de esos perversos integradores chupasangres? ¡Ja!
2) El estado de desinformación de las capas altas de gestión no es, en mi opinión, culpa de nadie pero sí culpa de todos. Creo que tiene mucho que ver con el "hamburger management" que se ha puesto de moda en los últimos años. Todo es un "elevator pitch", un "dead-line"… parece que si no se hacen las cosas antes que la competencia, simplemente estás muerto. Y eso no es verdad. Pero pocos parecen estar dispuestos a rebelarse contra esta dinámica y explicar que hay que comenzar a dar valor a los clientes, no sólo a los accionistas. (Hay un librito estupendo de Galbraith sobre el fraude inocente y cómo el enfocarse a dar beneficio a los principales accionistas (los CEOs fundamentalmente) ha llevado a situaciones muy peligrosas. Creo que es el momento de llevar estas reflexiones también a nuestro sector.
En fin, David, esperemos que algún día podamos ver que de las escuelas de negocios españolas salen "managers" con una buena formación en tecnologías de la información y viceversa.
A mí no es difícil que llegue, de hecho llegó tu trackback inmediatamente y me lo leí… y aunque te parezca la mar de raro… estoy plenamente de acuerdo. Que yo utilice el vídeo en clase quiere decir eso, que lo uso en clase. Es curioso que la gente no entienda que las clases en una escuela de negocios no consisten en impartir materia, sino precisamente en provocar discusión, y para eso, el vídeo de Larry es uno de los mejores materiales que he manejado, me funciona de locura de bien, y en la discusión que genera salen precisamente los temas que has mencionado aquí (y alguno más).
Maldita sea Enrique. ¡Has comentado el artículo! Eso significa que tendré que pagarle una ronda de cervezas a técnicos sedientos de sangre de management y alcohol. Por supuesto, estas invitado.
Puede que uno de los problemas de la colisión entre los mundos técnicos y de gestión es el desconocimiento y desconfianza mutua. Creo que todo iría mejor en el sector en este país, si mucho gurú de Internet supiera de lo que habla y mucho técnico talibán asumiera que, al final, todo se basa en generar un producto o servicio de calidad y rentable… y saber venderlo.
Hasta ahora no he encontrado un foro común para estos dos mundos. Al menos en España.
Hay mucho Iniciador, First Tuesday y Red Innova… pero, un compañero del metal se lamentaba el otro día de que no existía un foro de debate para "los que de verdad hacen las cosas". A lo mejor hay que dejar de lamentarse y crearlo.
Muchas gracias por el comentario Enrique.
A mi lo que me ha llamado la atencion es la vision y claridad de ideas de Larry, hay que tener en cuenta que el video es de 2003 !!!, justo antes de empezar a comprar empresas y completar el stack, para dar respuesta a los 3 problemas
- DISPERSION -> Oracle Database + ETL + Real Time Data Integration + IdM + Virtual Directory + …
- INTEGRACION -> Oracle Fusion Middleware: SOA + ESB + BPM + ECM + WCM + Portales + …
- ADAPTABILIDAD -> Oracle Fusion Applications: CRM, HCM, ERP, …
Aqui hay un enlace al respecto
No hay un foro, y sí muchísimo interés en crearlo. Aquí en el IE me pasa casi siempre lo mismo: tengo alumnos que, modestamente, suelen ser MUY buenos. Tienen ideas que con el aporte adecuado de código, podrían transformarse en buenos proyectos. Tengo una escuela de Ingeniería a un tiro de piedra. Y sin embargo, no consigo que los alumnos del IE y los programadores (me refiero a programadores de verdad, de los que saben transformar ideas en código, pensar en binario y que opinan que los frameworks son para los débiles :-) entren en contacto con esos alumnos y esos proyectos. Para el alumno medio, un programador es una especie desconocida, que no sabe donde encontrar ni como tratar. En consecuencia, algunos proyectos acaban no llevándose a cabo a pesar de tener buen potencial, y otros acaban en manos de empresas que subcontratan el desarrollo como si esto fuera algo que se puede comprar y vender, cuando mi opinión es que el desarrollo es una de las partes de verdad importantes y esenciales de un proyecto, que tenerlo desarrollado internamente ofrece un compromiso de flexibilidad y adaptación mucho más elevado, y que un programador debería ser una parte fundamental del equipo a la que se diese la importancia y la motivación adecuada – que muchas veces implica participación accionarial. Muy pocos proyectos basados en tecnología he visto que consigan generar una ventaja competitiva sostenible "comprando" el código a la consultora de turno, creo muchísimo más en el desarrollo propio y en que una empresa con base tecnológica tenga eso, una base tecnológica real. Y sin embargo, cuando intento poner en contacto ambos mundos, me encuentro con que la relación está llena de cliches (los del management piensan que los técnicos son una panda de frikis, los técnicos piensan que los managers son una panda de vendehumos que no aportan valor) es muuuuucho más difícil de lo que parece.
Desde mi perfil "plain technician", creo que nos toca jugar tanto a la integración como a la adaptibilidad del software, propiciado sobre todo por management que creen en la rapidez de producto para ser el referente en el mercado, lo que en ocasiones supone matar moscas a cañonazos.
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Creo que hay un interés mutuo por las dos partes. Hay muchos desarrolladores con la habilidad, pasión y motivación que requiere una start up pero, sin posibilidad alguna de encontrarse con gente de gestión con talento y ganas de trabajar duro.
Pero no entiendo porque ocurre aquí. En Estados Unidos, los ingenieros influyen en negocio tanto como el negocio influye en la ingeniería. Son dos mundos complementarios y destinados a entenderse.
Si de verdad hay interés en crear ese foro, cuenta conmigo para la parte de comunidad de desarrollo ¿podrías movilizar a alguno de esos gestores MUY buenos de los que hablas?
Sería cuestión de hablarlo…
Está claro quer en el común de los mortales el “gap” entre la parte técnica y el negocio es abismal, y, en muchos casos, insalvable. Deberíamos poner un poco de cada uno para ir hacia delante, que a veces parece que vamos hacia los lados. Eso de hacer productos y dinero no es lo nuestro, somos unos frikis, esa es la imagen que proyectamos al resto de mortales y por lo tanto, como bien dice Enrique, los que necesitan nuestra ayuda son incapaces de hablar nuestro idioma. El problema es que no deberíamos forzarles a hablar nuestro idioma, deberíamos estar más cerca de la “realidad”, es cierto que peude ser aburrido pero es así.
Respecto a “subcontratar el desarrollo”, es la peor opción y la que más se mueve en este país. Ha dado de comer a mucha gente estos últimos 15 años, y veo muy complicado cambiar esa tendencia. ¿Cuantos casos hay de capital riesgo subvencionando proyectos grandes? ¿es por falta de ideas?
Saludos.
David, muy buena entrada. Gracias por escribirla.
En cuanto al video, es curioso ver lo que cambia de creer que el video era del 2009-2010 a saber que es del 2003 -gracias Jaime. Ay! el contexto… Pero nadie puede negarle a Larry que sabe lo qué quiere y, aún más importante, sabe cómo conseguirlo. Y eso que yo soy de los que sigue pensando que habría sido mejor que fuera IBM quien comprara a Sun.
Pero lo que me parece increible -por no decir, un cuento- es la idea que nos deja Edans. Vaya, si todo el problema de que el mundo no esté colonizado por grandes proyectos españoles hechos por sus alumnos y nosotros, los programatas, es que los primeros no saben poner una oferta atractiva en Infojobs, apaga y vámonos.
Eso sí, el toque sensible con lo de las acciones, creo que calará fondo. David, parece que alguien quiere ser tu amigo :-)
Creo que no podría estar todo el mundo más de acuerdo con las ideas aquí expuestas. Solo falta que Larry Ellison te ponga un comentario desdiciéndose de su tercera afirmación :)
El último comentario de Enrique encaja bastante con un artículo que escribió otra persona que sabe de lo que habla, se ha peleado realmente con los dos mundos y es un caso de éxito, Eduardo Manchón: http://www.alzado.org/articulo.php?id_art=843
Enrique, no está en forma de vídeo, pero yo lo incluiría como bibliografía para que lo lean esos alumnos que se resisten a interactuar con el mundo del desarrollo :)
Estoy de acuerdo: un buen software es aquel que se puede programar y extender. El que posee una plataforma de desarrollo para que la comunidad publique plugins o para que consultores añadan y extiendan nuevas funcionalidades que no se contemplan en el software original por ser muy específicas.
Por eso SAP ha triunfado, porque si no te gusta algo, lo puedes modificar. Lo que SAP te vende es la plataforma. Eso no significa que el programa este incompleto y que haya que acabarlo, entonces ¿están también Firefox o Chrome o WordPress o Grails incompletos porque se pueden crear plugins sobre ellos
¡Hacer el software extensible es la clave del éxito! mira por ejemplo el Appstore de iPhone. Así que Larry aquí ha patinado. Supongo que esperaba unas risas después de cada "y nos habeís comprado demasiados"…
Sabía que el vídeo era del 2003 cuando escribí la entrada. No creo que haya cambiado tanto Oracle en estos 7 años, ni a golpe de talonario.
Respecto a lo que comentas de Enrique, bueno… dar entrada a los desarrolladores en el accionariado de start ups y demás tampoco ha sido algo muy común en este país. Me refiero a que un socio de gestión vea a un socio técnico como un igual, no a que le de migajas en forma de 0,5% o 5%. Si, de verdad, Dans se ha dado cuenta de esto y apoyo otra vía sería muy interesante por la influencia que su opinión puede tener en el sector, al menos en España.
También creo que debemos perder nuestro creencia de omnisciencia intelectual ("yo, como técnico soy capaz de entender lo que necesita un medico pero, un medico es un cretino que no puede siquiera llegar a soñar con entender lo que yo necesito").
De la misma manera que creo que en España hay técnicos de primer nivel ¿Por qué no va a haber emprendedores o gestores de primer nivel?.
Desde mi modesta opinión, al final, todo es tema de pasta porque, vuelvo a insistir, mucho Iniciador, mucho Open Talent, mucha AIEI, mucho SeedRocket y todo lo que tu quieras pero, aquí hay mucha gente con ganas de hacer cosas, mucha gente HABLANDO y HACIENDO RUIDO pero nadie pone pasta.
Y cuando hablo de pasta no me refiero a esas operaciones de Venture Capitalist de todo a 100 que abundan por aquí del tipo "te pongo 30.000 € y me quedo con el 75% de las acciones" sino a pasta de verdad algo en plan "toma 6 millones de euros y monta un software gestor de almacenes open source que arrase en la PYME española".
Hola David,
Me da un poco de reparo intervenir en tu blog ahora que te visita gente con tantos followers. :)
Ahora en serio. No creo que sea cuestión de que alguien con muchos contactos ponga en contacto a gentes de ambos lados del abismo. Creo que hay que *construir* puentes. Hay que, de manera activa, crear foros (físicos y/o virtuales) donde aquellos que tengan esa necesidad de encontrarse con "los del otro lado" puedan hacerlo fácilmente. El inconveniente que le encuentro a eso es que, per se, no es rentable. A mi al menos no se me ocurre una manera de redituar ese esfuerzo y los recursos necesarios para hacerlo posible. ¿Sugerencias?
Voy a aprovechar la difusión que está teniendo esto y lanzar la primera piedra: ¿Para cuándo un encuentro bimestral entre startups y los AgileSpain para sinergizar?
Hace rato que busco en España las empresas y proyectos que son interesantes y divertidos para los desarrolladores de software y creo que también hay muchos desarrolladores que quieren dejar de ponerse una corbata y hacer copy-paste todo el día de código heredado para poder imputar 40hs a la semana.
Hacen falta dos cosas:
- Que los desarrolladores entiendan que en un emprendimiento no debes buscar estabilidad laboral, sino generarla
- Que los emprendedores comprendan que si el corazón de su proyecto es la tecnología, deben mojarse y necesitan un socio tecnológico (contractualmente eso puede ser de distintas formas)
Saludos!
Yo estaría encantado de movilizar gente con ideas y proyectos – se puede ofrecer a los alumnos y ex-alumnos del IE que tengan proyectos (suelen ser proyectos que han pasado algunas fases de supervisión y personas con algunos años de experiencia y cv interesantes), pero abrirlo también a otros emprendedores – y podría hasta plantear el poner el foro para los eventos. No creo que necesitemos más eventos, hay hiperinflación de eventos, pero sí eventos que puedan atraer a ese doble perfil para que la gente se conozca y entienda de lo que se habla dando un paso más que simplemente poniendo una oferta en Infojobs. Para encontrar el programador que necesita un buen proyecto creo sinceramente que hace falta algo más que Infojobs – o que Rent-a-Coder. Necesitaría ayuda para atraer a la parte de la comunidad de desarrolladores, y para plantear temas que interesen a ambas partes, que atraigan tanto a la comunidad de desarrolladores como a los emprendedores, y tengan potencial para generar debates interesantes que vayan más allá del "sois una panda frikis" o "sois unos vendehumos"…
+1 a todo excepto que haya que restringirlo a la Comunidad ágil.
No sé si será rentable o si no hará catalizadores sino puentes como dice Beas pero, personalmente y como inventor e impulsor del Pintxo Management me cuesta lo mismo tomarme una cervecita viendo el partido de España que hablando sobre proyectos ilusionantes.
Sólo hace falta voluntad y poder llegar a uno y a otro sector.
De todas formas… ¿esto no iba sobre la gestión de la comunicación en la empresa? :) Como siempre, lo mejor de un artículo, en sus comentarios.
Un saludo.
Buen post y totalmente de acuerdo con este comentario. A más de un inversor hace 5 años no le importaba poner 10 millones de euros en un negocio del "ladrillo", pero ni loco lo hubiera invertido en un negocio "tecnológico" ¿Por qué? Básicamente por tres razones: desconocimiento, aversión al riesgo y el pelotazo.
La tecnología, y en concreto el software, es algo difícil de entender, con lo cual el inversor no puede calcular bien el riesgo y el posible beneficio de invertir en software.
Por otro lado el típico inversor español evita cualquier tipo de riesgo, intenta invertir en "algo seguro", y que de beneficios rápido. En esto último los españoles somos especialistas, en dar el pelotazo, queremos algo sencillito que nos enriquezca rápidamente, después coger el dinero y correr y si te he visto no me acuerdo.
Un negocio basado en tecnología no es ni sencillo, ni tiene porque dar beneficios a corto plazo y normalmente suele ser arriesgado. Por lo tanto no me extraña que en España no se invierta ni en tecnología, ni en I+D+i ni en software.
P.S. David, yo que tu hubiera negociado un salario de al menos dos botellas de vodka, por si te despiden después de este post ;-)
Pues para mi sí que hay una gran diferencia entre que el video sea del 2003 o del 2010.
Cuando pensaba que era del 2010 no podía dejar de pensar: este tio lo único que quiere es vendernos su nuevo, reluciente y completisimo stack además de restringir la libertad del cliente para eso de "busque, compare y si encuentra algo mejor, compre".
Pero cuando he sabido que el video era del 2003, lo que he pensado ha sido: joder esto es visión y lo demás tonterias. Y además bien llevada a cabo! Nos guste más o menos su estilo directo de "enséñame la pasta".
Porque esa palabra: Visión. Es la gran diferencia. El fáctor de éxito de los que han hecho su Negocio (con mayúsculas) partiendo de la nada -o casi la nada: HP, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Microsoft, Springsource, etc,…
La Visión de la mayoría de nuestros "vendehumos" -perdón por generalizar- es: quiero hacerme rico rapidito y no tengo pasta, pero seguro que puedo tener una Gran Idea para una página web, que me la financie alguien y que me la programe un friqui por cuatro duros, porque yo en realidad, aunque voy de way 3.0, no tengo ni idea de cómo funciona por dentro esto del Internete, ni siquiera un negocio real.
Y yo digo: no gracias, ni con acciones ni sin ellas, con mi vida juego yo. Prefiero mi sueldo estable de consultora, con mi horario fijo -porque aunque no lo creáis haciendo las cosas bien, no todos echamos horas extra gratis-. O eso, o algún día conoceré a alguien como Eduardo Manchón o la Minoría -gracias por el enlace Jerónimo- con quien sí merezca la pena montar algo o yo mismo me liaré la manta a la cabeza.
Julio, veo que lo has captado a la primera, a mi también me ha sorprendido, aunque no es la primera vez. Larry tiene las ideas clarisimas, tiene espiritu de ingeniero, y toma directamente las grandes decisiones de estrategia tecnica. He mirado su historia en la wikipedia , y me ha vuelto a sorprender: fue desarrollador y fundo SDL (Software Development Laboratories) en 1977 con $1400 como germen de Oracle, o sea que al fin y al cabo es un friki, techie, desarrollador, tecnico o como lo queramos llamar.
David, te puedo asegurar que Oracle ha cambiado, y mucho, los ultimos 7 años. Por un lado, la politica de adquisiciones empezo en el 2004, y desde entonces se han comprado más de 60 empresas. El numero de empleados más que se ha doblado. Por otro lado en 2003 el Software Empresarial estaba empezando a adoptar tecnologias Web, Web Services y SOA, ahora ya es una realidad en toda regla. Tambien se ha pasado de ser una compañia centrada en Database, a tener una oferta completa en Middleware y Aplicaciones, y más recientemente con la compra de Sun, tambien Hardware.
Llego tarde a la conversación mi maldito ordenador me dijo adios ayer mismo.
jmbeas: "En fin, David, esperemos que algún día podamos ver que de las escuelas de negocios españolas salen "managers" con una buena formación en tecnologías de la información y viceversa. "
NO, NO, NO, no se trata de saber de todo, no convirtamos a todo el mundo en técnicos, se trata DE ESCUCHAR, y cuando hablo de escuchar está claro que hablo de escuchar al técnico porque el técnico ya escucha sí o sí al "management" le guste o no. Es decir, se trata de COMPLEMENTAR.
Pero para poder complementar es precio VALORAR antes:
kinisoftware: "Además que, como hemos dicho otras veces, esta nuestra empresa valora, parece ser, la subida de puestos desde que llevas sudadera hasta que lleves distintas corbatas cada día. Qué pena… yo lo que quiero es ser técnico, pero de verdad, de esos experimentados… doctor, ¿es grave? ¿vivo en el país de las maravillas?"
No conozco personalmente a kinisoftware (creo) pero frases similares las he oído muchas veces y yo creo que suelen venir de los mejores técnicos, mejor dicho, de los que al menos honestamente quieren serlo o por lo menos "les gusta" su trabajo.
Es curioso pero en España los mejores técnicos están abocados a ser "managers" "sin remedio" o funcionarios con el fin de dejar de ser técnicos, quizás porque sienten que no suelen ser valorados, en todos los sentidos incluido el económico por no hablar de que a veces se les cuestiona su edad lo cual es sencillamente propio de un mercado enfermo. Esto significa que su trabajo no aporta valor a la empresa de turno, lo cual no deja de ser paradójico pues la IT tiene un lugar tan crítico hoy día que si funciona mal todo irá mal, si el ERP de Bonilla funciona mal su empresa puede irse al carajo, pues nos guste o no la informatización en el ámbito de la distribución es absolutamente crítico. Oído esto… ¿alguien puede cuestionar que Bonilla no aporta MUCHO valor a su empresa?
Respecto al emprendimiento, hoy día hay mucho mucho emprendimiento en Internet que viene de técnicos porque de la técnica surgen muchas ideas porque el propio técnico es también un usuario, esos técnicos estarían encantados de recibir ayuda y asesoría por parte del mundo del management sobre todo para trabajar la parte comercial.
Respecto al Venture Capital en España, es curioso pero en todos los eventos en los que estado hay siempre una frase mágica "plan de negocio" y digo yo ¿cual era el plan de negocio inicial de Google? ¿Cual era el plan de negocio inicial de FaceBook? ¿cual era el plan de negocio inicial de Twitter? ¿cual era el plan de negocio inicial de YouTube? y digo inicial porque ahora al menos intentan tenerlo con más o menos éxito (excepto YouTube que nunca consiguió ganar un duro y ahora ya no lo necesita).
Por ejemplo yo tengo la tecnología que se que cambiará el mundo del desarrollo web, pero no tengo un maldito plan de negocio… me temo que ese cambio que sin duda ocurrirá lo harán otros con o sin plan, SpringSource ya lo hizo a su manera con Spring… un producto gratuito por cierto :)
Suerte Bonilla con tu búsqueda de 6 millones de euros para liberar el ERP de tu empresa ¿tienes plan de negocio? XD
Como se puede ver no somos tan frikis, nunca había oído hablar tanto de dinero en foros para frikis (empezando por uno mismo), pues ahora resulta que la mayoría de frikis que conozco son friki.-empresarios o casi-empresarios. ¿Qué nos está pasando?
tienes mas razón que un santo en todo lo que comentas, Larry es un vendemotos más, solo que sabe hacerlo bien, por eso ha llegado a donde ha llegado :-)
[...] Los problemas de la gestión de información según Larry Ellison y Enrique Dans (…) Mi primera labor como CEO de una empresa siempre sería la misma: prohibir el Excel y derivados. El Excel puede ser una de las herramientas más dañinas para la actividad de una empresa y debería utilizarse únicamente como última solución y como herramienta de apoyo, nunca de trabajo… [...]
Gran artículo, y grandes comentarios, más de uno muy acertados.
Yo soy de los “technicians” o “frikis” que nos gusta pegarle al teclado todo el día y reventarse la cabeza escribiendo código, que a final de cuentas, muchas veces (por no decir siempre) los “management” ni les interesa saber y mucho menos entender.
Mira que sería bueno eso de juntar los dos mundos, pero será una tarea titánica, sobre todo como ya lo mencionaste Bonilla, entendernos es lo dificil. Pero aun así… se puede, por eso existen las comunidades de Software Libre (por mencionar unas), donde en muchas ocaciones los 2 mundos convergen, pues al menos un emprendedor es quien convive con el resto de desarrolladores, y es cuando salen proyectos muy buenos.
Lástima no ser de España, pero desde México les mando un abrazo, y excelente artículo vuelvo a decir, ojalá logren una buena comunidad ahi.
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